Where the money is part 2 :)
Dimitry12 asked me to expand why I think adult is ahead of most other fields in web marketing.
Also in adult one of the fastest growing fields is adult dating, example camazon and adult friend finder.
For starters they know the importance of affiliates when it comes to getting sales. As a result thier affiliates have at thier disposal.
- top notch banners and landing pages that convert without any presell page etc.
- rss feeds which you can use with little modification for adult blogs etc.
- extensive ammounts of galleries and other free material. If they know that you send them traffic they will make you custom material, custom banners etc.
- in most cases they pay with no hold, or maybe a week hold using convinient methods like epassporte etc.
A good adult affiliate program takes its affiliates seriously. When you email your affiliate manager within 24 hours at the most he will contact you back. For adult friend finder, when they have server down time they will calculate how much this downtime would have cost you and then compensate you.
With adult you can send traffic just to their landing pages and it will convert (not a good idea, but just an example). They have graphic designers etc in house that study what works and what does not. Basically all you have to do is SEO, no need to do marketing.
Contrast it to other affiliate programs, a prime example that comes to mind is commission junction. All you are given is a few crappy banners, some sort of primitive landing page from the stone age etc. It is your responsibility to create proper landing pages, make a proper presell etc. Then maybe after a month’s hold you might get paid (if they feel like it). The profit margin on things like books,jewlry,electronics (since online you do not need a physical shop) is just as high at adult (maybe higher since thier sites do not consume massive bandwidth). Meanwhile they give you like a paltry 15% (if you are lucky).
To be honest i might not make a strong case. All i know is that I have tried to sell products from commission junction etc, with no presell and failed. Meanwhile I have not done too bad with adult friend finder for example ![]()
November 8th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Thanks, nop! I got your point.
The other problem with unprofessional (CJ, CG) affiliate programs is that the aggregator can’t in fact guarantee that sales tracking take place - they try to do the check, though it’s very easy to cheat by the seller (intentionally or unintentionally).
November 9th, 2007 at 12:41 am
Unprofessional is the word i was looking for :). For most company on CJ they are not really serious.
In adult they can cheat (just like any online program can).
But they do not cheat, not because they are honest, but because they are not stupid.
Ussually after a while you have a good idea at approx what rate your traffic should convert. If you are not converting at that rate for an extended period of time (lets say 2 weeks), you will get a new affiliate. They will have cheated you out of 2 weeks worth of traffic, but have lost years worth of potential income.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:51 am
totally agree
November 18th, 2007 at 1:46 am
nop -
What adult sites have you worked with that give this support? I’ve worked with a few of the bigger ones, Camazon, AFF, GenBucks, and found that none of the programs were turnkey: you did have to do some modifications to get the Landing pages converting well.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Genbucks sucks shit and is a scam plain and simple.
For mainstream adult stuff topbucks has good rss feeds.
http://www.topbucks.com/
But mainstream is pretty hard to convert.
(but not impossible).
The niche stuff is where the $$$ are. You have to find a good niche and exploit it.
Go find good adult blogs on the net.
You will notice they use stuff like Camazon and AFF as header/footer but it not the main product they selling.
You will then see that ussually they have in the blog posts the samples of the stuff they are actually selling (these are the thumbs and description from the free galleries).
So basically you make script that takes rss feeds, go to rss feed and pull out thumb and then posts to ur wordpress blogs.